A Decade of Art, Action, and Dialogue - Closing program with Ginger Dunnil and Josie Lopez

In this episode, we present the final transmission of live recordings from the exhibition program that accompanied Broken Boxes: A Decade of Art, Action, and Dialogue at the Albuquerque Museum. This live conversation between exhibition co-curators Ginger Dunnill and Josie Lopez took place on March 2, 2025, and served as the closing event for both the exhibition and its programming.

Josie Lopez is an independent art historian and curator. At the time of this conversation, she was the head curator at the Albuquerque Museum. 

Ginger Dunnill is the creator and host of Broken Boxes podcast. Ginger is a producer, story archivist, curator, community organizer, sound artist and writer.


A note from Ginger Dunnill on the end of an era:



This episode will also mark the end of Broken Boxes as we’ve come to know it. I want to be clear—this work is not finished. It’s transforming.

This podcast, and the communities it has brought together, have deeply shaped my life and heart. I am forever grateful to be in conversation with so many creative thought leaders of our time. I’m still here with you all—and if you ever need me, just reach out.

I’ve recently been accepted into a creative nonfiction MFA program, where I’ll spend the next two years deepening my practice and exploring how my work can be used as a tool for radical archiving, while honing my voice as an artist.

The Broken Boxes podcast will remain accessible online for as long as I’m able to maintain it. I’ll also continue producing The Long Con series with Cannupa Hanska Luger and Sterlin Harjo on its own platform—so stay tuned for more on that project’s evolution.

And of course, Broken Boxes will carry on through underground music and performance events, and other small activations, both on- and offline. This work continues—it’s just taking new forms.

Since beginning this podcast, I’ve had the profound privilege of being in community with some of the most visionary artists of our time. My deepest respect and love goes to every creative mind who has contributed to this project. Your ideas continue to shape how we survive as artists and use our platforms for change.

To the many listeners who have grown with Broken Boxes: I’m with you. Thank you, always.

Here’s to breaking boxes—and building worlds.

I’ll see you in the streets!

Broken Boxes: A Decade of Art, Action, and Dialogue, curated by Ginger Dunnill and Josie Lopez, features large-scale installation, sculpture, video, and a robust programming line-up celebrating the work and ideas of 23 artists who have contributed to Dunnill's Broken Boxes podcast. The exhibition celebrates ten years of the podcast of the same name and amplifies the collective strength of contemporary artists.

https://www.cabq.gov/artsculture/albuquerque-museum/exhibitions-1/broken-boxes-a-decade-of-art-action-and-dialogue



A Decade of Art, Action, and Dialogue - Joseph M. Pierce & Christine Howard Sandoval Live Conversation

This episode continues our series of live recordings from the exhibition program which accompanied Broken Boxes: A Decade of Art, Action, and Dialogue at the Albuquerque Museum. 

This program took place on January 16th, 2025, with exhibiting artists Joseph M. Pierce and Christine Howard Sandoval, speaking to the theme of Movement, Memory, and Land.

Each artist began the conversation with remarks on their respective practices. After their introductions, the artists joined Broken Boxes exhibition co-curator Josie Lopez, and the dialogue expanded to explore deeper considerations around migration, memory, and land. Together, Joseph and Christine reflect on what it means to belong, and how their practices uncover and give voice to those stories.

Christine Howard Sandoval (b. 1975, Anaheim, CA) is an interdisciplinary artist who lives and works in the unceded territories of the Squamish, Tsleil-Waututh, and Musqueam First Nations. She is an Assistant Professor of Interdisciplinary Praxis in the Audain Faculty of Art at Emily Carr University (Vancouver, BC). Howard Sandoval is an enrolled member of the Chalon Nation in Bakersfield, CA. Howard Sandoval’s practice challenges the boundaries of representation, access, and habitation through the use of performance, video, and sculpture. She makes work about contested places, such as the historic Native and Hispanic waterways of northern New Mexico; the Gowanus Canal, a Superfund site in New York; and an interfacing suburban-wildland in Colorado. Howard Sandoval has exhibited nationally and internationally including: The Museum of Contemporary Art, University of São Paulo (Brazil), The Contemporary Art Gallery (Vancouver, BC), Oregon Contemporary (Portland, OR), The Museum of Capitalism (Oakland, CA), Designtransfer, Universität der Künste Berlin (Berlin, Germany), El Museo Del Barrio (New York, NY), and Socrates Sculpture Park (Queens, NY).

Joseph M. Pierce is Associate Professor in the Department of Hispanic Languages and Literature at Stony Brook University. His research focuses on the intersections of kinship, gender, sexuality, and race in Latin America, 19th century literature and culture, queer studies, Indigenous studies, and hemispheric approaches to citizenship and belonging. He is the author of Argentine Intimacies: Queer Kinship in an Age of Splendor, 1890-1910 (SUNY Press, 2019) and co-editor of Políticas del amor: Derechos sexuales y escrituras disidentes en el Cono Sur (Cuarto Propio, 2018) as well as the 2021 special issue of GLQ, “Queer/Cuir Américas: Translation, Decoloniality, and the Incommensurable.” His work has been published recently in Revista Hispánica Moderna, Critical Ethnic Studies, Latin American Research Review, and has also been featured in Indian Country Today. Along with SJ Norman (Koori, Wiradjuri descent) he is co-curator of the performance series Knowledge of Wounds. He is a citizen of the Cherokee Nation.

Broken Boxes: A Decade of Art, Action, and Dialogue, curated by Ginger Dunnill and Josie Lopez, features large-scale installation, sculpture, video, and a robust programming line-up celebrating the work and ideas of 23 artists who have contributed to Dunnill's Broken Boxes podcast. The exhibition celebrates ten years of the podcast of the same name and amplifies the collective strength of contemporary artists.

BBP Live: Cannupa Hanska Luger and Gerald Clarke in conversation with Desert X Co-curator Kaitlin Garcia-Maestas 

This live conversation features artists Gerald Clarke and Cannupa Hanska Luger and  Desert X Co-curator Kaitlin Garcia-Maestas and took place March 29, 2025 at the Thompson Hotel in Palm Springs, CA as a part of the Desert X 2025 program.

Gerald Clarke is a visual artist, educator, tribal leader, and cultural practitioner whose family has lived in the Anza Valley for time immemorial. Gerald was a featured artist in Desert X 2023 and presented “Immersion”, a monumental artwork based on Cahuilla basket weaving knowledge while also embedding a game-like quality to the  installation in order to educate our current generations on Indigenous knowledge and language of the region. 

Cannupa Hanska Luger is a multi-disciplinary artist and recurring host for Broken Boxes Podcast. Cannupa is featured in Desert X 2025, presenting a multi-pronged project titled G.H.O.S.T. Ride (Generative Habitation Operating System Technology), an evolving speculative fiction project which includes a mobile art installation, a poetic billboard triptic, and a new short film building upon ideas from his Future Ancestral Technologies series.

This lively discussion between these two Indigenous artists unfolds reflections around land ownership, maintenance of culture and respect for place. Both Gerald and Cannupa have exhibited for Desert X, yet each chose different paths towards sharing their Indigenous views through their projects. Desert X Co-Curator Kaitlin Garcia-Maestas thoughtfully guides the conversation into deep considerations around what it means to create public art in an accessible way, where the audience is left to interpret the artist's ideas on their own terms and in their own time. As Desert X Artistic Director Neville Wakefield notes in the introduction to this conversation, “ Desert X operates on the legacy of Land Art, and one of the questions that legacy leaves unanswered is—‘whose land is it and what are our responsibilities to it?’.

More about the panelists:

Gerald Clarke is a visual artist, educator, tribal leader, and cultural practitioner whose family has lived in the Anza Valley for time immemorial. As an enrolled citizen of the Cahuilla Band of Indians, Gerald lives in the home his grandfather build (c.1940) on the Cahuilla Indian Reservation and currently oversees the Clarke family cattle ranch. He is currently a Professor of Ethnic Studies at the University of California Riverside where he teaches classes in Native American art, history, and culture. 

As a visual artist, Gerald Clarke has exhibited his work extensively and can be seen in numerous exhibitions as well as major museum collections. In 2007, Gerald was awarded an Eiteljorg Museum Fellowship for Native American Fine Art and served as an Artist-in-Residence at the Institute of American Indian Arts in Santa Fe, New Mexico in 2015. In 2020, the Palm Springs Art Museum hosted Gerald Clarke: Falling Rock, the first major retrospective of the artist’s work. Clarke is a frequent lecturer, speaking about Native art, culture and social issues. He holds a B.A. in Art from the University of Central Arkansas and the M.A./M.F.A. degrees in Painting/Sculpture from Stephen F. Austin State University located in Nacogdoches, Texas.


Kaitlin Garcia-Maestas is co-curator of Desert X 2025, on view March 8–May 11, 2025 at sites across the Coachella Valley, California. Garcia-Maestas is a part of the curatorial team under the leadership of Artistic Director Neville Wakefield and Executive Director Jenny Gil.

Concurrent with her position at Desert X, Garcia-Maestas is Curator and Director of Exhibitions at Socrates Sculpture Park in Long Island City, NY. Her research and curatorial interests have primarily been devoted to exploring themes of displacement, decolonial resistance, and cultural hybridity in the United States and the Americas. Prior to joining Socrates, she was Acting Curator of Visual Arts at the Momentary in Bentonville, Arkansas, where she developed an outdoor art program, and a robust exhibition program focused on site-specific architectural interventions.

Garcia-Maestas has held curatorial positions at the Denver Art Museum, the Biennial of the Americas, and MCA Denver. While at the Denver Art Museum she worked on several major exhibitions, most notably Mi Tierra: Contemporary Artists Explore Place, an exhibition featuring site-specific installations by 13 Latinx and Chicanx artists examining themes of displacement and visibility. In 2015, she co-founded the Biennial Ambassadors artist residency program, a collaboration between the Biennial of the Americas and SOMA Mexico City. Garcia-Maestas’ curated exhibitions include Diana Al-Hadid: Ash in the Trade Winds, In Some Form or Fashion, Esteban Cabeza de Baca: Let Earth Breathe, A Divided Landscape, co-curated with Neville Wakefield, Yvette Mayorga: What a Time to Be, and recently MaryMattingly: Ebb of a Spring Tide. She has organized site-specific projects, outdoor installations, and residencies with artists including Matthew Barney, Andrea Carlson, Justin Favela, Martine Gutierrez, Xaviera Simmons, and Tavares Strachan.


Recurring Broken Boxes podcast host Cannupa Hanska Luger is a multidisciplinary artist creating monumental installations, sculpture and performance to communicate urgent stories of 21st Century Indigeneity. Born on the Standing Rock Reservation in North Dakota, USA, Luger is an enrolled member of the Three Affiliated Tribes of Fort Berthold and is Mandan, Hidatsa, Arikara and Lakota. Luger’s bold visual storytelling presents new ways of seeing our collective humanity while foregrounding an Indigenous worldview. His work has exhibited internationally including the Sharjah Biennial 16, United Arab Emirates, the 81st Whitney Biennial at the Whitney Museum of American Art, New York, the 14th Shanghai Biennale at the Power Station of Art, Shanghai, China, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York, the Gardiner Museum, Toronto and the National Center for Civil and Human Rights, Georgia. Luger has been awarded fellowships from Guggenheim, United States Artists, Creative Capital, Smithsonian and Joan Mitchell Foundation, among others and his work is in numerous public collections including the National Gallery of Art, Washington, DC, Detroit Institute of Arts, Detroit, MI, and the Los Angeles County Museum of Art, Los Angeles, CA.


More about Desert X

Desert X is produced by The Desert Biennial, a not-for-profit 501(c)(3) charitable organization founded in California, conceived to produce recurring international contemporary art exhibitions that activate desert locations through site-specific installations by acclaimed international artists. Its guiding purposes and principles include presenting public exhibitions of art that respond meaningfully to the conditions of desert locations, the environment and Indigenous communities; promoting cultural exchange and education programs that foster dialogue and understanding among cultures and communities about shared artistic, historical, and societal issues; and providing an accessible platform for artists from around the world to address ecological, cultural, spiritual, and other existential themes.

A Decade of Art, Action, and Dialogue- Long Con Live with Sterlin Harjo and Cannupa Hanska Luger

This special program took place on November 2, 2024 and featured a screening of Sterlin Harjo's documentary Love & Fury, a film where Sterlin follows Native artists for a year as they navigated their careers in the US and abroad. Love & Fury explores the immense complexities each artist faces in regards to their own identity as Native artists, as well as pushing Native art further into a post-colonial world. 


Following the film screening, the program included a live Long Con series episode with Sterlin Harjo and artist Cannupa Hanska Luger. This is the first time Long Con was presented in front of a live audience, and the conversation was anchored in themes drawn from the film, Love & Fury, and in the spirit of Long Con, Sterlin and Cannupa also shared vulnerable and hilarious reflections of their life as two friends sharing what it feels like to be contemporary Native American artists actively participating in the record of the 21st century.


This episode continues our series of live recordings from the exhibition program which accompanied Broken Boxes: A Decade of Art, Action, and Dialogue at the Albuquerque Museum.


Sterlin Harjo is an award winning Seminole/Muscogee Creek filmmaker who has directed three feature films and a feature documentary all of which address the contemporary Native American lived experience. Harjo is a founding member of the five-member Native American comedy group, The 1491s. Sterlin’s latest project Reservation Dogs, is a television show created in collaboration with Taika Waititi, now available to watch on FX. 


Cannupa Hanska Luger is an award winning multidisciplinary artist who creates monumental and situational installations and durational performance and often initiates community participation and social collaboration. Raised on the Standing Rock Reservation in North Dakota, he is an enrolled member of the Three Affiliated Tribes of Fort Berthold and is Mandan, Hidatsa, Arikara and Lakota. 


Broken Boxes: A Decade of Art, Action, and Dialogue, curated by Ginger Dunnill and Josie Lopez, features large-scale installation, sculpture, video, and a robust programming line-up celebrating the work and ideas of 23 artists who have contributed to Dunnill's Broken Boxes podcast. The exhibition celebrates ten years of the podcast of the same name and amplifies the collective strength of contemporary artists.

https://www.cabq.gov/artsculture/albuquerque-museum/exhibitions-1/broken-boxes-a-decade-of-art-action-and-dialogue

Featured Song: Part-Time Indian by Mato Wayuhi

A Decade of Art, Action, and Dialogue- Planting Justice Live Panel Discussion

This episode features an inspiring panel conversation with members of the Planting Justice project and continues our series of live recordings from the exhibition program which accompanied Broken Boxes: A Decade of Art, Action, and Dialogue.

Broken Boxes: A Decade of Art, Action, and Dialogue co-curator Josie Lopez introduces this conversation with members from the Oakland, CA based project Planting Justice. This panel conversation took place live on October 17 2024 at the Albuquerque Museum. Broken Boxes founder and exhibition co-curator Ginger Dunnill joins Josie Lopez in conversation with artist Kate DeCiccio and Planting Justice members Covonne Page and Sol Mercado. 

This conversation touches on the important work taking place at Planting Justice with formerly incarcerated community members and expands on the act of gardening as a form of justice and healing. This conversation covers community advocacy, social justice, and long-term actionable care. 

Shout out to artist Chip Thomas and his work with the Painted Desert Project. Chip was slated to be a part of this panel conversation but was not able to make it in person. 

Episode Image: Planting Justice workshop. Photograph by Kate DeCiccio
Featured song: AMERIKKA by Xiuhtezcatl & Jaiia Cerff

More about Planting Justice:

“Our purpose is to empower people impacted by mass incarceration and social inequities with the skills and resources to cultivate food sovereignty, economic justice, and community healing. We are working toward economic and environmental justice by building a network of sustainable land–based social enterprises. We counter systemic oppression, violence, and inequity by creating good jobs with nature-based work, a healing environment with holistic community support, and real opportunities for personal growth.”

https://plantingjustice.org/

More about artist Kate DeCiccio:

"I’m an Oakland based artist, educator & creative strategist. My work centers portraiture for counter narrative, community storytelling & cultural strategy on behalf of abolition and collective liberation.  I’m from Central Massachusetts where I grew up on occupied Nipmuc territory on my family’s 4th generation farm. I’m the 3rd generation of my Polish and Italian ancestors and descends from 11 generations of English colonizers. Before working as an artist full time I was a mental health and substance abuse counselor and taught art at San Quentin Prison,  St Elizabeths Forensic Psychiatric hospital &  Leadership High School. The intersections of creativity, mental illness, addiction and ancestral investigation have been driving themes in my art practice since I was a teenager. I’m committed to repairing the harm of my inherited legacy and working to heal our collective imagination by learning how to stand squarely in truth, accountability, renewed resilience and unknown possibility."

https://www.katedeciccio.com/

More about the exhibition Broken Boxes: A decade of Art, Action, and Dialogue:

Broken Boxes: A Decade of Art, Action, and Dialogue, curated by Ginger Dunnill and Josie Lopez, features large-scale installation, sculpture, video, and a robust programming line-up celebrating the work and ideas of 23 artists who have contributed to Dunnill's Broken Boxes podcast. The exhibition celebrates ten years of the podcast of the same name and amplifies the collective strength of contemporary artists.